Your questions suggests that I have elided matter, but I’m not sure that I agree. My view in Bodies That Matter was that there is an insistent materiality of the body, but that it never makes itself known or legible outside of the cultural articulation in which it appears. this does not mean that culture produces the materiality of the body. It only means that the body is always given to us, and to others, in some way. … It is important to affirm the materiality of the body … but the very form that that affirmation takes will be cultural, and that that cultural affirmation will contribute to the very matter that it names. So it seems to me much more like a conundrum than a strict “divide”