{"id":12145,"date":"2013-10-10T22:03:43","date_gmt":"2013-10-11T03:03:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/?p=12145"},"modified":"2013-10-10T22:04:14","modified_gmt":"2013-10-11T03:04:14","slug":"zizek-on-postone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/2013\/10\/10\/zizek-on-postone\/","title":{"rendered":"\u017di\u017eek on moishe postone"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=XeAw16y8EeE&amp;feature=c4-overview-vl&amp;list=PLF046C9A8E80FEEE2\" target=\"_blank\">Birkbeck December 6, 2008<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Beginning is not longer real life, but commodity as a historical form, and then penetrate from surface. The focus of Marx in Capital, is not ideology versus reality, it is commodity fetishism found at the very heart of reality.<\/p>\n<p>Marx never calls commodity fetishism ideology.\u00a0 Rehabilitate this post-Marxist Marx (which is close to Albritton\/Sekine)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/youtu.be\/XeAw16y8EeE?t=2m\" target=\"_blank\">What to do with labour theory of value<\/a>.\u00a0 Marx commits the same error of abstraction. Abstract from concrete commodities, being products of human labour.\u00a0 Z if you abstract from concrete use value what you get is abstract property of being useful.\u00a0 But why is Marx here right.<\/p>\n<p>Postone gave great explanation: Concrete labour and Abstract labour (source of value) it is not question of abstraction.\u00a0 The uniqueness of capitalism, we get personal freedom because the fundamental relations of exploitation are inscribed in process of capitalism itself.<\/p>\n<p>Absract labour means as Postone put it, in other pre-capitalist relations domination was enacted in personal relations outside of production relations, exploitation was assured through extra-economic means.\u00a0 Whereas in capitalism, we can see labour as the sole source of value.\u00a0 It isn&#8217;t some wierd ontology, IT CONCERNS LABOUR AS A SOCIAL PHENOMENON.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Birkbeck December 6, 2008 Beginning is not longer real life, but commodity as a historical form, and then penetrate from surface. The focus of Marx in Capital, is not ideology versus reality, it is commodity fetishism found at the very heart of reality. Marx never calls commodity fetishism ideology.\u00a0 Rehabilitate this post-Marxist Marx (which is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/2013\/10\/10\/zizek-on-postone\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;\u017di\u017eek on moishe postone&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[144,20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12145","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-marx","category-zizek"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12145","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12145"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12145\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12147,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12145\/revisions\/12147"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12145"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12145"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12145"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}