{"id":14374,"date":"2020-10-31T06:01:59","date_gmt":"2020-10-31T10:01:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/?p=14374"},"modified":"2020-10-31T06:09:39","modified_gmt":"2020-10-31T10:09:39","slug":"demand-the-impossible","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/2020\/10\/31\/demand-the-impossible\/","title":{"rendered":"Benanav"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Verso Live October 29, 2020<\/a> Figure out whether automation story: why is there few jobs, look at manufacturing sector. We can look at stats to see how many robots. Claim of industry is that its already happened. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

DE-INDUSTRIALIZATION: many countries, Mexico has been de-industrializing, even China has been de-industrializing. If were the case that automation is taking off, you would expect labour productivity to be rising, this is counter-intuitive, but stats, the remaining workers appearing to produce more output per hour, but this isn’t happening. Labour productivity is not increasing. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

More and more is being produced with fewer workers. Technology is always transforming, certain jobs are disappearing due to automation i.e. travel agents, but it’s due to OVERCAPACITY and Overproduction, so many suppliers have come online, its hard for producer to expand its output without taking some from others, heightened competition, lots of pressure to hold worker wages down. Hyper competition at the global level is expression of this OVER-capacity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n

As growth of industry has decelerated due to over-production, the rest of economy are bad at driving growth. Service sector is NOT automating. It has way lower productivity growth rates. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

It’s really about the stagnation of the economy, that why so few jobs are being created. The economy is not growing fast enough to absorb the jobs being lost. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

No growth, low growth: How do we respond to this whole range of problems, but what kind of proposals should we have? Jobs apocalypse at the global level is extreme. Global informal workforce, very competitive. The automation story says the economy is chugging along, new innovative tech is being invented, so they say its more about distributional problem, too much money at the top. NO. It’s more about insecurity. Lack autonomy, lack a voice at work. How are we going to win security, and win freedom in work and outside of work. We should have come out with a maximalist account of how to get there. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

How do we fight for security and freedom in here and now. In long term organize work in humane and everyone have fundamental security in their lives and freedom to follow their passions, and have resources to follow those passions, amateur printing press, dance lessons, water slides. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Autonomy and security. Automation has a strong and positive utopian impulse, a world that de-centres work in life. Not having work a centre in life the way it is. Universal Basic Income, the impulse behind UBI is beautiful. But the limits of UBI. There are right and left proposals for UBI. My fear, economic stagnation, in world of slowing growth, private capitalist willingness to invest dictates if economy grows or not. They say to the state, you have to create the conditions where its safe to invest. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is ways of uniting UBI and pubic investment, with Universal Basic Capital. Citizen’s Wealth. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Living in a low growth world, insecurity, governments abandoning populace to austerity. Post-scarcity, when we’re talking about scarcity, experience of living in a world of dispossession, lacking resources needed to survive, so they have to work, but living in a world of abundance, but not material abundance, its a social relationship, we can go out and produce the things we need to live. Technology is not a Promethean technological possibility. For example we’re going to have to eat a lot less meat. But not moving in an austerity space, talking about how much we have to give up, working less more free, less fossil-fuel intensive. De-growth economics, NLR has a good series on green strategy. Global North de-growth yes, Global South de-growth no. A green future is going to be fun, greater freedom, more valuable time to ourselves, a post-growth future and working time, environmental concerns, working time initiative. Experience wealth of connection with others. Time is now. It’s the time to lose one’s pessimism, and try to build a more positive future. The next 10 years are critical. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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