{"id":9155,"date":"2012-07-31T12:50:29","date_gmt":"2012-07-31T17:50:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/?p=9155"},"modified":"2012-07-31T12:50:29","modified_gmt":"2012-07-31T17:50:29","slug":"non-being-in-ltn-parmenides","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/2012\/07\/31\/non-being-in-ltn-parmenides\/","title":{"rendered":"non-being in LTN Parmenides"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Non-being is thunk by Plato between 2 extremes, Parmenides Unconditional ONE, and the sophist Gorgias who talks about the multiplicity of non-being.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;Plato defines Not-Being not as the opposite of Being (i.e., not as excluded hom the domain of Being), but as a Difference within the domain of Being:<\/strong> negative predication indicates something different hom the predicate (when I say &#8220;this is not black;&#8217; I thereby imply that it is a color other than black). <strong>Plato&#8217;s basic strategy is thus to relativize non-being,<\/strong> that is, to treat it not as an absolute negation of being but as a relational negation of a predicate.&#8221;\u00a0 43<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Even when a fiction is a fiction, it still works<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;&#8230; even when an (ideological) fiction is clearly recognized as a fiction, it still works: &#8220;it is possible to use fictions in order to attain the real<br \/>\nwithout believing in them:'&#8221; This is the paradox of which Marx was already aware when he painted out that &#8220;commodity fetishism&#8221; persists even after its illusory nature has become transparent. Niels Bohr provided its perfect formulation in response to a friend who asked if he really believed that the horseshoe above his door would bring him good luck: &#8220;Of course not, but I&#8217;ve been told it works even if one doesn&#8217;t believe in it!&#8221; 44\u00a0\u00a0 \ud83d\ude42 Okay, this is an old Joke. What is \u017d up to here?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff; font-weight: bold;\">There are many worlds because Being cannot be One, because a gap persists between the two<\/span>.\u00a0 52<\/p>\n<p>For <strong>Aristotle<\/strong>, the concept of oneness is only an aspect of the particular. Every particular is &#8220;one;&#8217; insofar as it is indivisible and individual. &#8220;Oneness;&#8217; in this view, basically depends on the meaning of &#8220;Being.&#8221; In <strong>Platonism<\/strong>, the reverse is true:<strong> the concept of the One is self-sufficient<\/strong>, so to speak, preceding the domain of particulars. Accordingly, <strong>the One<\/strong> accounts for the existence of particulars in a manifold that is somehow unified, structured, and determinate. It is a variant of the One. All these basic predicates of the particular can be interpreted in terms of the <strong>One that precedes all being<\/strong>\u00a0 [note 39 Dieter Henrich, <em>Between Kant and Hegel<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Y a d&#8217;l&#8217;Un<\/strong><\/span> : There is (something of the ) One<\/p>\n<p>being-a-One adds nothing to the content of an object; its only content is the form of self-identity itself.\u00a0 55<\/p>\n<p>1) There is One<\/p>\n<p>if the result of hypothesis 1 was that the One, taken solely in virtue of itself, apart from everything else, is nothing at all (or totally undescribable), 61<\/p>\n<p>2) One is<\/p>\n<p>and if the result of hypothesis 2 was that the One, taken in virtue of others, is everything indiscriminately (large and slnall, similar and dissimilar, in movement and at rest . . . ), the appendix tries to resolve this antinomy by introducing the temporal dimension. A One which exists in time can without any contradiction change in time from one state to another (it can move, say, and then be at<br \/>\nrest).<\/p>\n<p>But the interest of this otherwise commonsensical solution is that it again arrives at a paradoxical result when Pannenides focuses on the simple question: when does the One in question change? &#8220;If it is in motion, it has not yet changed. If it is at rest, it has already changed. When it changes must it not be neither in motion nor at rest? But there can be no time when a thing is neither in motion nor at rest.&#8221;\u00a0 61<\/p>\n<p>In this middle space, many weird things can take place-how can we not think of Gramsci&#8217;s remark: &#8220;the crisis lies precisely in the fact that <strong>the old is dying and the new cannot be born<\/strong>. In the interregnum, a variety of morbid symptoms appear&#8221;? 61<\/p>\n<p>3) One <em>is<\/em> [One with Being does not preclude Others with Being: there can be Others with predicates. 55]<\/p>\n<p>Hypothesis 3 proper, which then follows (&#8220;if one is, what are the consequences for the others&#8221;), &#8230; outlining a common-sense, realistic ontology: although the others are not the One, they can have some relation to the One, they can partake of the form of the One: when they are combined into a Whole, this Whole is One; as parts of this Whole, each of them is also One, etc. The form of One thus delimits the parts in relation to each other and to the whole; it &#8220;accounts for the organization of parts in a unified whole,&#8221; that is, it acts as the &#8220;principle of structure for the entities it combines.&#8221; If we take the form of the One away from the others, we get a chaotic unlimited multitude.\u00a0 64<\/p>\n<p>4) There is One\u00a0 [One without Being precludes Others and thus also their predication. 55]<\/p>\n<p>5) One <strong><em>is not<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It concerns a One, something that is an entity, but which does not exist, i.e., does not have Being. Even if One is not, we can still predicate it, i.e., negative predication is possible, we know what we are saying when we negate a predicate. 55<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; the One of hypothesis 5, the One that does not exist, but which we can talk about, is the <strong>symbolic fiction<\/strong>;<\/p>\n<p>6) There is no One\u00a0 [The One is here not only deprived of Being, but deprived of its very character of One: it is no longer a non-existent entity, but a nonentity \u2014 and, as such, cannot be predicated. 55]<\/p>\n<p>Hypotheses 5 and 6 explore the consequences for the One if &#8220;One is not&#8221;; 5 reads &#8220;is not&#8221; as the assertion of a non-predicate, while 6 reads &#8220;is not&#8221; as a direct outright negation. In other words, in 5, &#8220;One is not&#8221; means that the One partakes of many characteristics (is unlike the others, like itself, and so on), among them non-being. The consequences of this triplicity are far-reaching: when we say &#8220;x is large;&#8217; this does not mean that the object x is large because it directly participates in the Idea of largeness; it rather means that x partakes of being in relation to largeness. \u00a0This triplicity holds not only for the predicative use of the verb &#8220;being&#8221;: if we say that Socrates and Plato are similar in that they are both Greek, they are not similar because they both partake of the Idea of Greek \u2014 they are similar because they both partake of the Idea of Similarity in relation to being-Greek. 64<\/p>\n<p>7) One <strong><em>is not<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What does the fact that the One is a non-existing entityrnean for Others?\u00a0 As in the case of the hypothesis 5, Others can be predicated. 55<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; the dispersed not-One of hypothesis 7 is that of <strong>imaginary illusion<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>8) There is no One<\/p>\n<p>If however, One is not only a non-existent entity, but a nonentity, then there are also no Others, existing or non- existing \u2014 there is nothing at all. 55<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; the One that is not One of hypothesis 8 is the <strong>Real as impossible<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CONCLUSION<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ideas do not exist &#8230; That is to say, the only appropriate conclusion is that <strong>eternal Ideas<\/strong> are Ones and Others which do not participate in (spatio-temporal) Being (which is the only actual being there is): their status is purely virtual\u00a0\u00a0 68<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Non-being is thunk by Plato between 2 extremes, Parmenides Unconditional ONE, and the sophist Gorgias who talks about the multiplicity of non-being. &#8220;Plato defines Not-Being not as the opposite of Being (i.e., not as excluded hom the domain of Being), but as a Difference within the domain of Being: negative predication indicates something different hom &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/2012\/07\/31\/non-being-in-ltn-parmenides\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;non-being in LTN Parmenides&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[116],"class_list":["post-9155","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-zizek","tag-ltn"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9155","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9155"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9155\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9176,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9155\/revisions\/9176"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9155"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9155"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.terada.ca\/discourse\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9155"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}